How AI Is Changing Developers and What They Build—with Ray Deck
About the episode
Is software dead? Are engineers going to disappear?
In this episode of Futureproof, Xano CEO Prakash Chandran talks with Ray Deck, founder of State Change and longtime technologist, about how software creation is evolving in the age of AI. Ray explains why the future isn’t about replacing developers or building the right SaaS—but about rethinking how we define both of those terms. Together, they explore the evolving profile of a developer and why software might be ephemeral, but the data and customers behind it are constants.
- AI as Amplifier: AI helps shorten the path between concept and creation, expanding the definition of what a developer is, emphasizing the importance of AI literacy and putting a premium on creativity.
- Data Is the Foundation: Your most durable advantage isn’t code—it’s the data and customer context that power your products.
- Think Big, Build Small: Big ideas will increasingly be delivered through targeted, temporary tools designed to solve precise problems.
Chapters
00:00
Meet Ray Deck
Ray shares his journey from early data science to empowering new builders through State Change.
04:00
The Last 5% Challenge
Why even with automation, the hardest part of software is still human judgment and using the right mental model.
10:00
Who’s a Developer Now?
The builder identity expands—but engineering skill remains essential for scale and precision.
13:30
AI as the New Literacy
How natural language and iteration are changing the way we learn, create, and test ideas.
17:30
How to Think With AI
Ray shares frameworks for working iteratively with machines and refining ideas through questioning.
20:00
Data Readiness Is AI Readiness
Why unstructured data, not just algorithms, determines how effectively companies can leverage AI.
25:00
From Apps to Agents
Exploring the rise of agentic software and the Model Context Protocol (MCP) as a bridge to on-demand functionality.
33:00
Ephemeral Software, Enduring Impact
The shift toward temporary, purpose-built tools—and how that empowers faster innovation.
37:00
Advice for SaaS Leaders
Focus on what lasts: your customers, relationships, and data—not the codebase.
40:00
Tools & Techniques
Ray shares his go-to AI tools and developer practices for staying adaptive.
43:30
Looking Ahead
A future of AI-native software, smarter energy use, and an even more creative generation of builders.
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